{"id":455,"date":"2011-09-01T10:34:49","date_gmt":"2011-09-01T08:34:49","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/?p=455"},"modified":"2020-05-13T11:48:31","modified_gmt":"2020-05-13T09:48:31","slug":"kako-sam-otkrio-novu-promjenjivu-zvijezdu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/?p=455","title":{"rendered":"Kako sam otkrio novu promjenjivu zvijezdu"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Update sije\u010danj 2018.:<\/strong> prema <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sternwarte.uni-erlangen.de\/docs\/theses\/2015-07_Schaffenroth.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">ovom istra\u017eivanju objavljenom 2015.<\/a> poznato je 28 takvih sistema. Analiza je vrlo op\u0161irna, ali i zanimljiv prikaz ovih objekata.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Update listopad 2013.:<\/strong> zvijezda je snimljena sa jo\u0161 nekoliko teleskopa (promjera do 2 metra!) i analizirana od strane astronoma diljem svijeta (+ Gregor, naravno!), a rezultati su <a href=\"http:\/\/www.konkoly.hu\/cgi-bin\/IBVS?6067\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">objavljeni u biltenu<\/a>. Na linku pro\u010ditajte detalje, a ja \u0107u samo ukratko citirati:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>&#8220;The orbital period of the system is the second longest (after AA\u00a0Dor) among the previously known sdB+M dwarf eclipsing binaries. Out of 13 known sdB + M eclipsing binaries (Barlow et al., 2013) the system shows deepest primary eclipses. VSX J075328.9+722424 definitely deserves medium or high-resolution spectroscopy to find the spectroscopic orbit of the primary and to reliably estimate the absolute parameters of the components. The spectroscopy would also solve the issue of third light which might come from (i) an additional source (quite likely in the case of close binary stars, see Pribulla &amp; Rucinski, 2006) or (ii) result from inadequate modelling of the reflection effect. For this V = 16<sup>m<\/sup>.5 short-period eclipsing binary an 8 m-class telescope is required.&#8221;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>(slijedi tekst koji sam pisao nedugo nakon otkri\u0107a)<\/p>\n<p>Pro\u0161li tjedan dok sam bio na Petrovoj Gori, poku\u0161ao sam jednu jednostavnu metodu potrage za novim kometima uz pomo\u0107 teleskopa i CCD kamere. Nekoliko susjednih vidnih polja snimao sam po redu ekspozicijom od 5 min i zatim ponovio snimanje od po\u010detka. Uspore\u0111uju\u0107i dvije slike kao dva layera u Photoshopu sa blendingom na &#8220;difference&#8221;, bilo kakav objekt koji bi se pomaknuo bio bi odmah vidljiv, kao na snimci Plutona.<\/p>\n<p>Sljede\u0107i dan kada sam analizirao snimke nije bilo nikakvog novog mutnog objekta, ali jedna zvijezda je bila vidljiva na snimkama napravljenim u razmaku od 40-tak minuta. Evo kratke animacije:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/par5_tockica.gif\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"457\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/?attachment_id=457\" data-orig-file=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/par5_tockica.gif\" data-orig-size=\"164,136\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"par5_tockica\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/par5_tockica.gif\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-457\" title=\"par5_tockica\" src=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/par5_tockica.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"164\" height=\"136\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Sljede\u0107u no\u0107 sam ponovno snimio isto podru\u010dje kako bi potvrdio da to mo\u017eda nije neki asteroid, ali zvijezda je i dalje bila tamo. Na\u017ealost, kasnije mi se pokvarila monta\u017ea pa nisam mogao nastaviti sa snimanjem. Na moj <a href=\"http:\/\/www.zvjezdarnica.com\/forum\/index.php?topic=5838.0\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">upit na forumu zvjezdarnice.com<\/a> pomogli su mi Kruno i Gregor. Zvijezda je\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/vizier.u-strasbg.fr\/viz-bin\/VizieR-5?-ref=VIZ4e5d037245a8&amp;-out.add=.&amp;-source=I\/252\/out&amp;USNO-A2.0===1575-02788049\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">USNO-A2.0 1575-02788049<\/a>, te do sada nije katalogizirana kao promjenjiva. Magnituda joj je 16.7 i dosta je plava. Ja sa astrometrijom i fotometrijom nemam uop\u0107e iskustva pa sve informacije koje sam dobio su rezultat truda navedene dvojice foruma\u0161a na \u010demu im puno zahvaljujem!<\/p>\n<p>U srijedu 31.8. Gregor je snimio krivulju promjene sjaja ove zvijezde. Ispada da je minimum vrlo dubok, \u010dak 2.8 magnitude i to u vrlo kratkom vremenu!<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/zvijezda-potvrda-20110831.jpg\"><img fetchpriority=\"high\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"458\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/?attachment_id=458\" data-orig-file=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/zvijezda-potvrda-20110831.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"392,335\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"zvijezda potvrda 20110831\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/zvijezda-potvrda-20110831.jpg\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-458\" title=\"zvijezda potvrda 20110831\" src=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/zvijezda-potvrda-20110831.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"392\" height=\"335\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/zvijezda-potvrda-20110831.jpg 392w, http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/zvijezda-potvrda-20110831-234x200.jpg 234w, http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/zvijezda-potvrda-20110831-351x300.jpg 351w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 392px) 100vw, 392px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Prema Gregorovom mi\u0161ljenju primarna zvijezda je bijeli patuljak kojem svjetlost blokira crveni ili \u010dak sme\u0111i patuljak. Taj duboki minimum traje svega 7% vremena od punog ciklusa pa je stvarno sre\u0107a kako sam uspio snimiti taj trenutak! Na grafu se vidi i sekundarni minimum, negdje na 25.0 koji nastaje zbog obrnute situacije, dakle kada primarna zvijezda blokira dio svjetlosti sekundarne. Sekundarni minimum je malen vjerojatno ba\u0161 zbog toga \u0161to je primarna zvijezda fizi\u010dki malena.<\/p>\n<p>Tako\u0111er je zanimljivo kako na grafu svjetlost nakon prvog minimuma lagano raste sve do sekundarnog i onda simetri\u010dno opada. To je zbog refleksije svjetlosti primarne zvijezde od one koja se giba oko nje. Fantasti\u010dno je da taj efekt mo\u017eemo izmjeriti na astronomskim udaljenostima!<\/p>\n<p>Za 100% potvrdu svega ovoga treba napraviti jo\u0161 mjerenja, ali u svakom slu\u010daju pri\u010da je zanimljiva. Pokazuje da je na nebu ostalo puno zanimljivih stvari za otkriti na amaterskim snimkama &#8211; samo ih treba provjeriti.<\/p>\n<p><strong>UPDATE:<\/strong> Gregor je opet snimao zvijezdu i dobio cijelu faznu krivulju:<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/phaseplot.jpg\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"464\" data-permalink=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/?attachment_id=464\" data-orig-file=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/phaseplot.jpg\" data-orig-size=\"425,324\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"phaseplot\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/phaseplot.jpg\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-464\" title=\"phaseplot\" src=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/phaseplot.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"425\" height=\"324\" srcset=\"http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/phaseplot.jpg 425w, http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/phaseplot-262x200.jpg 262w, http:\/\/www.astrobobo.net\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/09\/phaseplot-393x300.jpg 393w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 425px) 100vw, 425px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Faza je 0.2032 dana, tj. objekt napravi jedan krug oko mati\u010dne zvijezde za manje od 5 sati (4h 52min) Zvijezda je &#8220;prijavljena&#8221; AAVSO-u i \u010deka se potvrda. Bilo bi stvarno super saznati \u0161to je taj pratioc koji radi pomr\u010dine primarne zvijezde. Gregor pretpostavlja da je to kombinacija <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Subdwarf_B_star\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">sdB<\/a> + <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Red_dwarf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">dM<\/a> zvijezda, a tra\u017ee\u0107i po inernetu vidim da je takvih do sada otkriveno tek 8.<\/p>\n<p>Nova krivulja sjaja nakon jo\u0161 vi\u0161e mjerenja (tako\u0111er Gregorovih):<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/www.aavso.org\/vsx\/docs\/270274\/517\/phaseplot_FBS%200747%2B725_20111123.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"425\" height=\"324\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Zvijezda je od danas (12.9.2011.) i <a href=\"http:\/\/www.aavso.org\/vsx\/index.php?view=detail.top&amp;oid=270274\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">slu\u017ebeno &#8220;priznata&#8221; na International Variable Star Indexu<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Update sije\u010danj 2018.: prema ovom istra\u017eivanju objavljenom 2015. poznato je 28 takvih sistema. Analiza je vrlo op\u0161irna, ali i zanimljiv prikaz ovih objekata. Update listopad 2013.: zvijezda je snimljena sa jo\u0161 nekoliko teleskopa (promjera do 2 metra!) i analizirana od strane astronoma diljem svijeta (+ Gregor, naravno!), a rezultati su objavljeni u biltenu. Na linku [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":464,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"gallery","meta":{"_acf_changed":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[120],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-455","post","type-post","status-publish","format-gallery","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-prakticna-astronomija","post_format-post-format-gallery"],"acf":[],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.8 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Update sije\u010danj 2018.: prema ovom istra\u017eivanju objavljenom 2015. poznato je 28 takvih sistema. 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